ROAD TO FREEDOM SHOW http://www.shoestringradio.net TRANSCRIPT for show 32, recorded March 20, 2006: Today we are going to hear an account by a target of citizen gang stalking and electronic harassment, who wishes to remain anonymous, who has accomplished very significant strides toward STOPPING her harassment. For those who are targeted, this is hugely significant, as she is essentially now free of harassment. Of the 500+ targets who keep in touch via the Internet, you can count on one hand the number who have reported the harassment has stopped. Most targets expect the harassment to continue right up to their death. We have had members dying of cancer who were harassed right on their death bed. This story explains how she managed to get her torture stopped. This lady's nightmare of around the clock harassment began when her family moved into a house which, unknown to the family, had been a methamphetamine lab. The residue had not been fully cleaned out, and her family suffered years harassment, when her dentist reported to the authorities that her family were probably meth users, based on dental symptoms. Her research into the meth lab house issue found that there is the possibility of 600+ meth lab homes operating for EACH meth manufacturer busted. Most of these labs are completely hidden, and even homes which WERE busted have either not been cleaned up satisfactorialy or at all. There are certainly many other meth residue exposure victims. Most of these people DO NOT KNOW THEY WERE EXPOSED. Each exposure victim will have medical and dental ramifications. This target says she hopes by virtue of the exposure of the profile of meth residue health and dental symptoms, future victims do not get erroneously pegged as meth addicts, then tortured and harassed. She writes that the diagnosis of meth user has to be based on REAL evidence and science, not on the pseudo science used by dentists playing God, who then arbitrarily decide that if you say you have not used meth, you must therefore be an addict. First, we will hear how she managed to get most of her harassment stopped, then we will hear her comments on the problem of the medical and dental establishments' being unwilling to acknowledge that people can show methamphetamine symptoms without being meth addicts. Sueann Campbell will be reading what she wrote about getting her harassment almost stopped. Sueann?: Although my case is one of the exceptions, I got very specific results from several of my strategies and almost an entire cessation (over time) to my own harassment. My most amazing help was when I received information (the Associated Press release, "Portland Oregon Police and Firemen who busted meth labs, became ill, lost teeth, got cancer, then died.") ... which caused me to ask the corrupt police officer whom I had been reporting to, which agency to call about treatment for our exposure to residue in the house we unknowingly moved into. This shocked him, he apologized, and admitted what he had done. Plus I had 2 years of the police officer having said many things which were quite helpful. Such as, my harassment was exactly the same as that which his sister in law had experienced in San Jose. The officer said she had been a meth addict, and the town people had “scared her straight”. Within 2 weeks of the officer's apology the night time torture stopped, in July 2002, and has never returned. That made THE MOST difference in my health. Apparently he undid what he had done with the health department. The most frightening harassment for me was reckless endangerment on all roads, 24/7. I got that to stop, on my own, well before I found the Associated Press article. I did not get vehicle "following" to stop, but it changed, they were farther back, and they no longer constantly tried to run me off the road, a great help! I achieved this by carefully making NOTES, for months, of all reckless endangering stalkers. I noted license plates, makes, models, AND ESPECIALLY DECALS on the cars. I took down street names, dates and times, and the drivers' descriptions. I figured even if there were many of them, eventually cars and drivers would be seen again. Then I reported this information to my corrupt police officer contact. After reporting to him and finding no change in 2 weeks, I then went to several of the stores where the "following on foot and harassment", which some call street theater, was taking place. In each of the stores I said pretty loudly to one of the cashiers, "I have been stalked for some time in cars, and I had all that information (makes, models, driver descriptions, and so forth,) and reported them to authorities. I also wrote to the public service agency named on the most frequent decal seen on cars harassing me. I was careful to say in my letter to them, "SOMEONE has been using your decal stickers, maybe borrowing your members' cars, stealing them, or someone is making copies of your stickers, and those cars are stalking me." "Although I don't believe it is your membership (because people sometimes try to get other people in trouble), I just thought you should know these people are doing this. If it is your people, they are giving your members a bad reputation." I got a call after they received my letter form the local agency chief executive, and although the executive said there was no one else on the phone line, I could hear others in the background. He tried to bait and switch me. But I continued to merely say, I was just informing them that people who were stalking and recklessly endangering me, 24/7 on local roads, were using their organization's stickers, and I thought they should know. Within a week or so, ALL cars were GONE! Brand new cars and trucks were following me, but at a SAFE distance and not trying to crash into me. AND those new following cars bore NO license plates, no decals, and had all new drivers. Since I had taken so many notes, this was very evident. [Eleanor White speaking: I'd like to comment here that surprisingly, public service agency employees sometimes do participate in citizen gang stalking. Examples of this are found in David Lawson's book "Terrorist Stalking in America", a 12-page review of which with direct quotes is posted on this show's web site, which is shoestringradio.net The reason some public service employees are recruited seems to be that, to go into public service, one usually has a strong wish to make the community a better place. Because of the web of lies told about targets, strongly motivated public service employees can be persuaded to participate with the citizen stalking gangs.] The anonymous target continues: Her is how I got individuals doing street theater and harassments to stop. I made an assumption. My home had been broken into, although nothing of value was stolen, and I was being QUOTED VERBATIM by 'street theater' perpetrators. That is, they would walk up and say things I had spoken, word for word. I figured someone was listening and watching me in my home, my car, and at my parents' home, those were the places I said very specific things as "bait", to test for coincidence. I decided to use my home, car, and parent's home as a "speaking podium" of sorts. I began by saying my name, and telling what I knew about what was happening to me. Then I told the NAMES of people, and the NAMES of STORES involved, and what had happened in each. In my "bait" speaking, I only spoke out loud to any bugs which may have been in my vicinity about things which were obviously offensive or illegal for those people to have knowledge about. If I did not have the NAME of an individual, I gave an accurate description of them. I mentioned the time, date, and place and what happened. It made an immediate BIG DIFFERENCE. Within a few days or a week of beginning that, the perps became much more discrete about what they said, what they did, and most of it became so low key I ignored it. BUT I did continue to report it, speaking out loud in my car or at home. Usually I spoke it out loud it IMMEDIATELY. This strongly suggested to me that my car and home were bugged. I found if I spoke out loud about a car's unusual behavior, at the time it was happening, that car IMMEDIATELY disappeared, and no car replaced it for the rest of the day. [Eleanor White speaking: Let me repeat that as it is extremely significant - when the writer of this testimony spoke out loud, in her moving car, about harassment by a vehicle near her on the road, the other vehicle responded IMMEDIATELY by taking off. Clearly, someone in charge was monitoring what the target was saying.] The anonymous target continues: As I described by speaking out loud in my car, I just pretended I was reporting it directly to the police. I described the car, the street where it was happening, the description of the driver, the license plate (if there was one), make model and license plate (if there was one) and the type of behaviour the driver was carrying out. It slowed down so much immediately that I was astounded. I then began reporting the entire few years of harassment in it's entirety, out loud but to myself, in my home, and car. I began at the beginning, and went through the entire thing, including names or descriptions of the people involved, what each had done, who they seemed to be associated with, and the damages done to my family and me, and our possessions or cars (such as 9 flat tires from screws or nails in the sidewalls, in a 2 month period). When I had gotten some relief in all those areas (like no more flat tires), then I began on my neighbors, and I made my presence known. I drove up to each of the homes which seemed to have been a part of what was happening. I stopped, got out of my car, and made my presence known, just standing there for a period of time . Since I lived within sight of those homes, if and when those neighbors came out and challenged me (which many did) , I just said I was looking at my own new roof or something, from a different angle to see my own home. That stirred things up a LOT! Three neighbors immediately moved away (within a month), and a fourth moved in few more months. [Eleanor White speaking: Folks, have you ever heard of someone who would just "move away" because someone was standing in the street near their homes? Remember, frequent changes in neighbours, sometimes on a weekly or even daily basis, is reported by some targets.] The anonymous target continues: Many things changed, and got less intense. Then I found the newspaper article about the neighbor across the canyon, whom the newspaper reported was arrested, and meth and a gun found in his home. So I then did a search on the Internet on that individual, found links to other cases of where he was mentioned, and it turns out the perpetrator manufactured official emblems for public services, and apparently is a public service agency member himself. I spoke out loud, as I had been doing because it seemed to me that my home and car were bugged, what had happened from the direction of HIS house. There were 2 cars (white and red) coming and going to the direction of that man's home, every 3 to 4 hours 24/7 and had been for YEARS. In one newspaper article, other neighbors had reported that too. [Eleanor White speaking: Folks, it's interesting that unusually high concentrations of red and white cars appears to be one of the "mind games" these harassers have been playing on a number of targets. This goes back at least a decade.] The anonymous target continues: These are the ways I made things more tolerable. Say out loud, for those monitoring what you are saying, what you know, (wherever you are being listened to, or assume you are always being listened to), give descriptions of what is being done. Tell your whole story, so people who have been made to think other things are educated. Another tactic I used was to take an offensive stance, to take back my land so to speak, I became a 'presence' to involved neighbors, but without being rude. Keep extensive notes on all of it, and then go back after some time to see what things are repeated over and over again. Talk out loud, in private, to your perpetrators, as though they were listening, in your home, in your car, etc., since they probably are. I think it often educated the perps as to their misinformation about me, exposed things about the people who were involved, and their sadism and damages, the defamation of character, and so forth. [Eleanor White speaking: That concludes the anonymous target's story of how she has been able to get almost all of the serious harassment stopped. In her case, the KEY break she had was that she discovered, through years of research, HOW she became targeted in the first place, and was able to get the police who submitted her family for extra-judicial punishment to correct their error. Now, we will hear some of her comments on the problem which got her harassed to begin with - the false labelling by the medical and dental systems of everyone with symptoms of methamphetamine use, even if their symptoms were acquired entirely innocently:] There is a BIG lack of information on "meth mouth", and lots of MISinformation. Dentists have mostly NOT recieved the information I have supplied to them and their professional association, or, have not beleived such a mistake as happened with my family could be made, so they got defensive. [Eleanor White speaking: What happened to the target and her family was that they got symptoms from moving in to a house which, unknown to them, had been a methamphetamine lab.] The anonymous target continues: The dental establishment has also been told that people who do meth, lie or are in denial about using it, so the dentists are in a quanary over how to handle people with innocently acquired meth symptoms. The AMA, ADA and other Associations upon which dentists and doctors depend on for information and advice, still do not have a handle on new information, and they tend not to believe it, nor recognize innocent expsoure as a source of ill health and dental problems, dispite all the citations I found, which are exsquitely accurate in describing what exposure without using the drug actually does. Changes in professional attitudes will come with time, and more defamation law suits. This exposure situation is NEW SCIENCE to the professional associations! You are hearing cutting edge research, by my sharing it with you here. But believe me, the full professional acceptance of this information is a bit far away for now. The Environmental Protection Agency is open to the idea that non-meth users can display meth symptoms, but they HAVE to make certain there are no legal loopholes, there are no errors, there is NOT ONE THING in error, before going forward toward pullling the rug out from under people who are falsely labelling innocent victims of exposure to methamphetamine component chemicals. As for individual dentists themselves, they think they are doing something good, finding meth addicts. Yes, many of their techniques are citizen harassment gang-like. Their means of finding "meth addicts" based on their inaccurate science is what is wrong, their arguments about what to look for is worng, their assumptions about what causes these symptoms are also wrong. But you have to remember, they are just dentists, they are still seeking to have professional stature equal to that of medical doctors. When someone began to see emerging telltale dental or health characteristics in known addicts, they thought they had finally found something, their ability to act as an "early warning system to detect meth addiction", which would boost their perceived importance to the same level as medical doctors. THEY, the dentists, thought they could find meth addicts, and save their towns, country and people. But they are NOT MDs, they are not as familiar with medical research including the symptoms of various types of substance abuse. Dentists mostly go to school, and then practice their dentistry for the rest of their lives, only reading about dental research, not doing any themselves. I found this information ONLY due to my looking for a cure for my family and me, all who had the same exposure to meth lab materials. Others who had exposures, (such as First Responding firemen and police officers, and people who lived in homes which they then found out had been used as meth labs before they owned the home), none of these other people did research, nor did these people go anywhere except to the esptablished AMA doctors who treated their symptoms, and not too successfully. It was only after 2 years of my own very extensive research (hundreds of pages of reading per day) and speaking to MANY toxic waste officers, and others in that line of work, for long periods of time with each (on my phone dollars), and emailing the chief toxicologist who did the initial findings on the meth lab exposure victims who were police officers, that I found the main problem was heavy metal residue from the meth lab operation. I found this out due to there not being a medical program to treat people who are exposed. It was ONLY becasue my late husband and I were gold miners that I even knew about EDTA's use for getting heavy metals out of the body. It was a funny (not ha ha funny) twist of fate and extended knowledge, and a personal bent for research, that I stumbled onto ANY of the EDTA story, let alone all of it. [Eleanor White speaking: "EDTA", or ethylene diamine tetra acetic acid, is a compound which "complexes", meaning grabs on to and holds in a complex organic molecule, metal ions. This allows EDTA to snatch harmful metal ions from the body for excretion. EDTA is also used in some food products.] The anonymous target continues: Either my research was extremely fortutious and a lot of work, or there may have been some people behind the scenes who were helping me find things. [Eleanor White speaking: Notice the target wonders about "people behind the scenes" helping her research the situation which got her targeted. Other targets have expressed the idea that they have occasionally benefitted from what seems like people in the PERPETRATOR organization actually helping them. One has to wonder if there are people in the perpetrator organization who are trying to help from the inside?] The anonymous target continues: I told you I had met some perpetrators. They may have helped, who could tell? For instance, the initial information which began my own research was the article from Associated Press, "Portland, Oregon Police and Firemen First Responders to meth lab busts get ill, lose teeth, get cancer and die." This key newspaper article was apparently hacked into a computer search, which started me down the road to eventually discover ALL of this. I was doing a regular search on MSN. I had put in a search for "anthropolgy" sites. Instead of getting a list of anthropology sites to go to, I got that Associated Press release. So whoever gave that to me, knew it might help, which it did. The Portland Oregon Police and Firemen Risk Management unit (which was responsible for all the exposed officers and their health care needs) was extremely helpful, and was where I got the email address of the toxicologist who did the initial findings. He found lead and mercury at all the meth lab sites tested. Every single person whom I contacted was full of empathy and sympathy for my family's horrid fate, and they helped me in ways only those in their respective fields could. They went out of their way to help me, and sent me to more and more other people who might help me too. They were the real heros! I had stopped looking for meth exposure information in 1992, when Poison Control and EPA said they had no statistics on it. The Associated Press article, (2002,) was what did two very distinct things for me. First it stopped the horrid harassment becasue the police officer whom I had been reporting to finally understood my perdicament, and that I was NOT a meth addict. I phoned him to find out which agency to ask for help from our 1989 exposure which killed my husband, in a totally (I thought) issue, unrelated to the harasmment. But it turned out it was directly related to the harassment. Second I found my asnwers to our treatment for the exposure. At any moment along the way, I could have stopped looking, stopped speaking to the toxic waste officers and others who helped me, and stopped reading and rereading research papers. And if I had NOT been completely disabled, I might not even had the time to do all the research. So don't go too hard on the dentists who falsely turn in patients as meth addicts, they believe what they beleive due to "protocols of power." It is the paradigm of authority and power, and they are low men on that line, but higher than us mere mortals. THey are just so stupid about the meth issue, they do not get it even when it is right in their face. How could an old woman find something they couldn't? [Eleanor White speaking: That concludes the story of this anonymous target who has accomplished what so far has been impossible for the rest of us - getting the harassment stopped.]